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== August 21 ==
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Continued from '''[[Back to Treborg]]'''.
==== Round 1 ====
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Make each move an individual thread, please. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 20:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
: Waiting on Embla. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
I move cautiously to 0705 (2 AP), and swing my maul at the ice frog (2 AP): attack roll of 11, hitting AC 6, or AC 5 if the toad's Intelligence is below 5 due to my "Aggressive" trait. --[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 20:41, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Setting out at 9 a.m., you’re frustrated when an hour out of Treborg, the wind dies.  Completely.  You row for two hours, when the wind finally picks up at noon, in the wrong direction.  Nadia raises the sail and you begin to crawl your way south to Stavanger; by three you’ve made 8 knots, about a third of the journey.  The wind improves, spins around to the east and you make 2 knots an hour for the next six hours, putting you 4 knots from Stavanger.  The wind increases, swings to the southeast – directly in your face – and it begins to rain. Bailing, you tack the last four hours, arriving in Stavanger at 1 a.m. on the 10th of July.  It is pouring rain.  Nadia shrugs.  She got you here.  Malady checks come to naught.  Embla’s parents will put you up for the night if you ask.
:The creature's intelligence is low enough, but the attack yet misses.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
I'll draw my sword (1 AP) and attempt to enter combat. I have to succeed on a morale check: I roll a 5 (my WIS is 11). I'll move into 0806 (1 AP) and attack the grey creature (2 AP): '''15+2=17 to hit, 1+1=2 damage''' –[[Vafrandir]] 20:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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== July 10th ==
: Vafrandir's check isn't really a morale check; it is characteristic of his background, in which he has learned to be cautious before rushing into fights.  The fighter scores a clean hit ... but it so happens the creature is immune to normal weapons and can't be hit by Vafrandir's short sword.
 
:: Because of the earlier time spent withdrawing, Vafrandir has his shield in place.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Understood. I make it each round, yes? Ha, yes I figured that might be the case. –[[Vafrandir]] 23:34, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::: You'll be glad to learn that '''no you don't!'''  Just once at the beginning of a combat.  You're fine to proceed normally.
 
  
I draw my battle axe and step into 0906 warily for 1 AP. --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]]) 21:02, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Lexent]]:''' Very kind of them, I beg their hospitality and thank them for it. I collapse exhausted into whatever sleeping accommodations they provide.
: For information, there is space between the bars to allow a swing, Pandred, though you would risk getting your axe caught in the bars. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::Noted, but my AP limits me to drawing regardless. I want to leave space for the door to open so Embla has room and I can strike without issue.--21:39, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
'''Embla''' I move to 0607 (2AP) and throw my javelin at the toad (2AP). Hit AC 8, dealing 7 damage. A miss, I believe. --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 00:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Pandred]]''': "I hate boats."
  
== August 22 ==
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'''[[Lexent]]:''' Is there a particular gnomish deity of water, ships, or travel to whom I should be making appeals? (or cursing?) ;)
['''OOC''': in general, I'm going to relax and not strain myself during the weekends with the campaign.  I would like to complete one combat round per day, if we could.  At some point today I'll commit myself to rolling the enemy's move and transferring material to the public eye, but for the present I'm going to spot work on the wiki as I have been doing.  I'd like to write a post today, as well.  So kick back until Monday.  I hope I don't have to kill anybody's characters.  Incidentally, it might have been a real big mistake letting go of the door and choosing to fight; you might have kept the nasty only-hit-by-magic fellow busy by maintaining the threat of closing the door.  Sorry if my saying so breaks some "rule" about the DM not commenting, but sometimes I'm still a teacher]--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 17:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:Mistakes keep the game complex, at least. –[[Vafrandir]] 18:10, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
Would I recognize that my attack does nothing? –[[Vafrandir]] 18:10, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''Marcule:''' Also hate boats.
:Yes.  The contact would have been clean, and your experience would have told you that should have done damage. Growing up in a world of magic, you would have heard of creatures that were immune to weapons, and your experience would put two and two together.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:37, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== August 23 ==
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'''The DM:''' Nicer when they’re bigger.  Besides, it was the weather, not the boat.  Would you have rather slogged 24 miles in these conditions?  Anyway, in the morning, it is a moderate to heavy rain, with more than a quarter inch falling every hour. There is little wind and it is a “warm” rain, as the temperature is cool and nearly pleasant.
The red mud creature decides to punch Vafrandir, who is handy, rolling a 12 and missing AC 5 (would have hit if Vafrandir had not had his shield in place; thought you'd like to know). --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
Pandred, the creature will say to you clearly, as Vafrandir lifts his shield to ward off the blow, "If you want to reach me, squeeze through the bars."  I'll need you to roll a [https://wiki.alexissmolensk.com/index.php/Saving_Throws saving throw against magic (suggestion)].  You need a 15.  I suggest everyone take a good, close look at the [http://wiki.alexissmolensk.com/index.php/Suggestion_(spell) suggestion spell]. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Lexent]]:''' If I calculate correctly, it is Sunday. Does that mean the market and shops will be closed? Is there a gnomish population of any note in Stavanger?
  
There's a 50% chance the toad will let go with its breath weapon ... and it does.  The original rule from the player's handbook reads, "All non-cold creatures within 10 ft. of the ice toad suffer 3-18 points of damage."  It says nothing else; usually, however, a breath weapon is a cone, typically 5 ft wide at the base and stretching outwards to 20 ft. wide at 30 ft. away.  So, rather than freeze out the whole party, I'll use the cone; shame this is a monster starting with "T", or else I've have written out rules for it online by now.  It has an average intelligence, so it is smart enough to leave Vafrandir and Pandred to the mud creature (though it could get two), and attack the immediate threat, which is Engelhart.  Engelhart, the breath causes 11 damage.  Please make a saving throw against breath weapon.  You need a 15. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Many thanks to Nadia for the crossing and Embla's parents for a roof.
::: '''Yet another mistake made''': I missed Embla's last move.  That '''does put her in the breath weapon's path''' ... so I will need a saving throw against breath weapon for Embla as well.
 
  
:I roll precisely an unmodified 15(!!), *Phew!*. That's hellishly dangerous, hope it can't repeat the deed again soon or at all. Could my knowledge of beasts extend to knowing if it can use its breath again? --[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 19:21, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' What's next?
:: Yes!  It will be three rounds of not using it before it makes a 50/50 roll again.  The breath weapon only causes 5 damage, Engelhart--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::: '''Embla''' I roll an 11 on the saving throw, which is a failure, I believe. If so, taking the 11 damage will stun me. --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 21:06, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: I'm afraid it does.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::::: That puts me at 6hp remaining and stunned. Do we have any healing available? --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 22:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::: Pandred's perma-salve. But honestly, sacrificing an attack roll for +1d4 Hp in such a swingy fight hardly seems worth the time.
 
  
Oh, and I forgot.  The ice toad also radiates cold to everything within 10 feet; that includes, Engelhart, Vafrandir and Pandred.  You each take 1 pt. of damage.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' If it is indeed Sunday, will Embla's parents be attending services?
: Amazingly, I believe I am not stunned, due to the two damage sources being separate. But from here on the going can only get tougher. It appears the creature's spell will cost us Pandred for much of the fight, regardless of her making her save or not... --[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 19:47, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
I get 19, which I believe is a successful save even without my background bonus. I'm out of the running for a bit regardless. Is it okay if I still offer advice to my comrades, or would you prefer I wait 'till I am able to act of my own volition again? --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]]) 20:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Lexent]]:''' If shopping is a viable option, I would like to head first to the Weaponwright. Otherwise, I am interested in getting to know the gnomish community in Stavanger (if any) and making sure that their spiritual needs are being met.
: Yes, Pandred feels a strong compulsion to begin explaining to the apparent demon why her body cannot possibly fit between the bars. Which would mean, it would be impossible for her to give advice.  There is a clue in the cell description, however, that can release Pandred from the spell almost at once.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 21:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Well, she did take damage from the toad's cold aura, now whether you're willing to count that as "attacked" is up in the air...--[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 22:04, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::: It is not sufficient; an attack would have to involve a sharp pain.  Moreover, a pummel or an overbear would be more certain than an attempt to hit with weapon, as Pandred would habitually react and defend herself.  Point in fact, for Vafrandir's benefit, I will be adding the rule of attacking with two weapons to the wiki this evening; the 16 dex fighter should be sure to see that post before giving any action when round 2 starts. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 23:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::::"Listen, GUY, if I want to reach you I'm not sticking my hands through a set of ice cold bars, you want me to get stuck like some idiot kid's tongue?" The way I see it-" --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]]) 02:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== August 24 ==
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'''The DM:''' There is shopping on Sundays.  Embla's parents will be attending services.
  
Alexis, I do have a magic weapon, my maul became a maul +1 after being worked on by the svirfneblin. Pandred I am not so sure, as she left us before we encountered the elder Prugg, and I clearly remember Rob and Mikael being with us at that point. I similarly cannot account as to who kept the frogling ring with the trapped soul (evil-tainted, apparently usable for a Hp boost near death), whereas I'm fairly sure it was Mikael or Rob who had the artifact (another ring?) who would summon the valkirie to help us in dire need. This all came to memory because, frankly, it feels like they're about to really become necessary.--[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 12:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I will accompany them and meet the party at the market afterwards.
  
:I have the frogling ring. --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 15:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Sorry I can’t give you an updated price list, but please ask me about anything that seems suspicious.
  
:Additionally, my battleaxe is +1 --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 15:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Vafrandir make a wisdom check.
  
I have my shield in my non-sword hand: how does this interact with a pummel attack re: the new two-weapon rules? –[[Vafrandir]] 14:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Lexent]]:''' I head to the Weaponwright. Once there I show him one of the pieces of adamantium and ask if he is able to work it for me. I am firstly interested in repairing my Godentag with some amount of the adamantium used for the spike.
  
:I merely wanted you to be aware of the rule, Vafrandir. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:18, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I roll a '''19'''.
  
Show of hands: who feels that properly Rob, Lothar and Mikael should be here as NPCs?  Since they helped get you into this. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:18, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' You get nothing from the service, I'm afraid. It occurs to me that a wisdom check could get you a +1% bonus on experience in your next encounter, or perhaps for the next 1,000 x.p. you earn (though that might be difficult to calculate).  Perhaps a flat +100 bonus if you're in an encounter from which you take damage.
:They're here in any case. I vote NPCs. –[[Vafrandir]] 16:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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: Stuff like that would encourage players to attend churchHm50 x.p. bonus per levelWith a 7-day deadline.
::Seconded --[[User:Embla|Embla]] ([[User talk:Embla|talk]]) 16:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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::'''[[Lexent]]:''' What would be the gnomish practice for regular spiritual fullfilment?
:::I don't mind either way, but lean towards letting them sit out. I will say that Pan herself was briefly an NPC, although under slightly different circumstances, so precedent is there. Vafrandir, you and I both have Puissance so your Shield does 1d4 as a weapon. It would be up to Alexis to clarify if that means you forego your AC bonus the round you use it that way, which '''I''' assume is the case.  --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]]) 17:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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::: '''The DM:''' Was thinking about that.  The rules have to be different for clerics; something others can get that clerics can't, but in compensation there are things clerics can get that others don't.  Your attending a shrine for your god, for example, would be meaningful to you but not to themAnd it would matter where you put your sage abilities.
::::Thanks for the reminder! –[[Vafrandir]] 18:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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::::'''[[Lexent]]:''' I'm looking in the more general sense too, wanting to know what I can do FOR my community around me and how I can more meaningfully react to the world, not just benefits I can receive.
::::: I'm a bit torn. But coming down on the side of yes, as these guys have a crucial item on them and, well, without additional warm bodies it feels like this fight will soon turn very sour on us. Lothar even had a magic sword with a +2 vs. amphibians.--[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 20:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::: And obviously THAT was an intended plan!
 
 
 
As when I used you that way, Pandred (did you feel used?), I have to play them carefully; couldn't have one wade into a fightI don't know if the players will ever be back to pick up those characters or not, but I certainly can't get them killed.  Lothar has a bow, however, and Mikael has spells.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
In any case, Engelhart and Vafrandir, please take an action. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
I recognize the futility of my attack on the mud demon. I will move behind the gate to 1007 (stride of 2, not subject to AoO per my background) and smack Pandred with my shield: '''10+2=12 to hit, 2+1=3 damage''' "Snap out of it!" –[[Vafrandir]] 19:00, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
: [this is the sort of thing that frustrates my DMing]Vafrandir, being new, perhaps you didn't understandPandred is Armour Class TWO. If you attack him with your shield in a normal fashion, you need to roll an 18 to hit. On the other hand, IF you overbear, then his armour is not relevant; his armour class becomes TENMeaning you only need a 10.  Now. When you were in training, and your instructor hit you hard against your head AGAIN, what did he tell you about overbearing when the amount of damage you did in a fight wasn't important? --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 19:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Yes, I'm an idiot, ha. An overbear (if you'll allow the mulligan), yields a '''16-1=15''', considering our weights (122/143=85%). And a damage of '''2'''. Do I have that right? I appreciate your patience. –[[Vafrandir]] 19:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::: I will allow the mulligan, but I wouldn't allow a re-roll.  If you had missed with the overbear, I wouldn't have let you try again.  The first roll hits and Pandred snaps out of it.  And I want to thank YOU for bearing my growliness. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 19:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Sounds good. Takes all sorts! –[[Vafrandir]] 19:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: Thinking about it, I don't know where the 10+2 on your attack came from.  Your strength is 17, so it should be 10+1.  The overbear would be 10+1-1I suppose I overlooked it because I'm ordinarily not policing you. Where's the "10+2"?
 
:::::A typo, and a good reminder to double-check numbers. I have an additional +1 with my ''sword'' as an elf, but an overbear doesn't use a sword, obviously. It's a case in point for raw rolls, as we've discussed before. –[[Vafrandir]] 19:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::: Ah, correct!  The elven sword gambit!  You are +1 for it also: 10+2 was accurate for a normal hit.
 
 
 
: Neither of the enemies here have any weapon with which to take advantage of a fast move, so no need to worry about AoO in this combat.
 
 
 
I shift to 0806, formerly occupied by Vafrandir, so as to keep the two enemies properly engaged while Embla and Pandred recover. I attack the red mud demon: attack roll of 19, hitting AC -2, damage roll of 1 (+1 from the enchantment means a total of 2 damage).--[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 20:22, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 
: That is most definitely a hit.
 
 
 
'''As you feel sore pressed,''' Lothar comes running towards the party.  From thirty feet away, he hurls a sword at Vafrandir, so that it bounds and bounces towards the fighter, landing in the adjacent hex.  As he hurls it, Lothar shouts, "Try this, friend elf!"  Then he loads his bow.
 
 
 
[Enemy turn to come; caught up in some duties]
 
 
 
== August 25 ==
 
 
 
'''OOC''': I have to head cross-state for a medical appointment this afternoon through tomorrow, so my participation will be intermittent. I hope to be able to check in every so often while not on the road. –[[Vafrandir]] 14:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 

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Continued from Back to Treborg.

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The DM: Setting out at 9 a.m., you’re frustrated when an hour out of Treborg, the wind dies. Completely. You row for two hours, when the wind finally picks up at noon, in the wrong direction. Nadia raises the sail and you begin to crawl your way south to Stavanger; by three you’ve made 8 knots, about a third of the journey. The wind improves, spins around to the east and you make 2 knots an hour for the next six hours, putting you 4 knots from Stavanger. The wind increases, swings to the southeast – directly in your face – and it begins to rain. Bailing, you tack the last four hours, arriving in Stavanger at 1 a.m. on the 10th of July. It is pouring rain. Nadia shrugs. She got you here. Malady checks come to naught. Embla’s parents will put you up for the night if you ask.

July 10th

Lexent: Very kind of them, I beg their hospitality and thank them for it. I collapse exhausted into whatever sleeping accommodations they provide.

Pandred: "I hate boats."

Lexent: Is there a particular gnomish deity of water, ships, or travel to whom I should be making appeals? (or cursing?) ;)

Marcule: Also hate boats.

The DM: Nicer when they’re bigger. Besides, it was the weather, not the boat. Would you have rather slogged 24 miles in these conditions? Anyway, in the morning, it is a moderate to heavy rain, with more than a quarter inch falling every hour. There is little wind and it is a “warm” rain, as the temperature is cool and nearly pleasant.

Lexent: If I calculate correctly, it is Sunday. Does that mean the market and shops will be closed? Is there a gnomish population of any note in Stavanger?

Vafrandir: Many thanks to Nadia for the crossing and Embla's parents for a roof.

The DM: What's next?

Vafrandir: If it is indeed Sunday, will Embla's parents be attending services?

Lexent: If shopping is a viable option, I would like to head first to the Weaponwright. Otherwise, I am interested in getting to know the gnomish community in Stavanger (if any) and making sure that their spiritual needs are being met.

The DM: There is shopping on Sundays. Embla's parents will be attending services.

Vafrandir: I will accompany them and meet the party at the market afterwards.

The DM: Sorry I can’t give you an updated price list, but please ask me about anything that seems suspicious.

The DM: Vafrandir make a wisdom check.

Lexent: I head to the Weaponwright. Once there I show him one of the pieces of adamantium and ask if he is able to work it for me. I am firstly interested in repairing my Godentag with some amount of the adamantium used for the spike.

Vafrandir: I roll a 19.

The DM: You get nothing from the service, I'm afraid. It occurs to me that a wisdom check could get you a +1% bonus on experience in your next encounter, or perhaps for the next 1,000 x.p. you earn (though that might be difficult to calculate). Perhaps a flat +100 bonus if you're in an encounter from which you take damage.

Stuff like that would encourage players to attend church. Hm. 50 x.p. bonus per level. With a 7-day deadline.
Lexent: What would be the gnomish practice for regular spiritual fullfilment?
The DM: Was thinking about that. The rules have to be different for clerics; something others can get that clerics can't, but in compensation there are things clerics can get that others don't. Your attending a shrine for your god, for example, would be meaningful to you but not to them. And it would matter where you put your sage abilities.
Lexent: I'm looking in the more general sense too, wanting to know what I can do FOR my community around me and how I can more meaningfully react to the world, not just benefits I can receive.