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'''The DM:''' I've tried everything I can think of or understand in my reading to fix a certain table I'm trying to add to my map files.
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:'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Which page are you on and what is the goal?
  
== Pandred ==
 
'''The DM:''' It is anything but pleasant out here in the storm.  There's really nowhere to change Hamish's clothing except in an alley somewhere, even though rain is sousing every stitch of clothing that the party has on.  Hamish seems more cognizant, enough that he begins to ask questions about how you came into possession of the grant he meant to receive years ago.  He hasn't found the will to actually look inside the satchel yet.
 
  
== Lexent & Vafrandir ==
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'''The DM:''' With this, I'd like the blocks with Map B1 and Map B3 to overlap with East Spitsbergen, so that Lapland is snuggled in the middle.
'''The DM:''' A "vittling yard" is a storehouse for shipboard food, for military ships to collect stores for long voyages at sea.  Ships come in and send their boats to the yard to collect sufficient food to fill up their holds; this is managed with an eye dropper, as it were, as ships are not entitled to more food than their orders permit.  You find the place quiet due to the weather, as no captain would risk having a load of their permitted food falling into the sea, not unless they absolutely had to have it in time of war.  There is no war just now, so the yard is empty of boats.  There is a funnel of water pouring off every shed roof and a steady sheet of water pouring across the dock and into the sea.  Presumedly, you ask for Espen and he's directed to meet with you at the gate.  As it happens, he is perhaps the plainest, almost the ugliest guard you've ever met.
 
  
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "Thank you for seeing us sir, we would like to speak with you concerning one Hamish Ross. Marla over at the Courtland told us that you would be the best person to assist us and to speak to no one else until we had spoken with you."
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center; background-color:#d4f2f2;"
: '''The DM:''' not a good idea using Hamish's name loosely like that.
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|-
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! [[Map A.01 - Greenland Sea|A1: Greenland Sea]] !! [[Map A.02 - East Spitsbergen|A2: East Spitsbergen]] !! [[Map A.03 - Jotunheim|A3: Jotunheim]]
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|-
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! [[Map B.01 - Lofoten|B1: Lofoten]] !! [[Map B.02 - Lapland|B2: Lapland]] !! [[Map B.03 - Yak'Margug|B3: Yak'Margug]]
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|}
  
'''The DM:''' There are other guards within earshot as Espen asks what this is about.
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I can't seem to make it happen, however.
  
'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' "It really would be best if we could speak in private, sir."
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'''The DM:''' By inventing a fake heading, I was able to make this table look like I wanted:
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;" background-color:#d4f2f2;"
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|-
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! !! !! !!
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|-
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| colspan="2"|'''[[Map A.01 - Greenland Sea|A1: Greenland Sea]]''' || colspan="2"|'''[[Map A.02 - East Spitsbergen|A2: East Spitsbergen]]'''
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|-
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| '''[[Map B.18 - Iceland|B18: Iceland]]''' || colspan="2"|'''[[Map B.01 - Lofoten|B1: Lofoten]]''' || '''[[Map B.02 - Lapland|B2: Lapland]]'''
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|-
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| colspan="2"|'''[[Map C.01 - North Sea|C1: North Sea]]''' || colspan="2"|'''[[Map C.02 - Baltic|A2: Baltic]]'''
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|}
  
'''Esper:''' “Hm. All right.
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'''The DM:''' However, this is a disaster.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;" background-color:#d4f2f2;"
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|-
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! !! !! !! !!
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|-
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| colspan="2"|'''[[Map A.01 - Greenland Sea|A1: Greenland Sea]]''' ||'''[[Map A.02 - East Spitsbergen|A2: East<br>Spitsbergen]]''' || colspan="2"|'''[[Map A.03 - Jotunheim|A3: Jotunheim]]
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|-
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| '''[[Map B.01 - Lofoten|B1: Lofoten]]''' || colspan="3"|'''[[Map B.02 - Lapland|B2: Lapland]]''' || '''[[Map B.03 - Yak'Margug|B3: Yak'Margug]]'''
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|-
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| '''[[Map C.01 - North Sea|C1: North Sea]]''' || '''[[Map C.02 - Baltic|C2: Baltic]]''' || colspan="2"|'''[[Map C.03 - Lithuania-Poland|C3: Lithuania-<br>Poland]]''' || '''[[Map C.04 - Upper Volga|C4: Upper Volga]]'''
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|}
  
'''The DM:''' He leads you to a place along the nearby wall, under an eave, asking again how this affects Hamish.
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'''The DM:''' I can’t figure out what the column widths have to be to make these work.  And if there was a better way to do it ...
  
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "Plainly put, we have proof of his claims and are trying to help set things aright"
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I'll take a look and see what I can figure out. Will each case be different or is there a pattern of overlap for each set of maps?
  
'''Esper:'''  “You have proof of his claims?  What kind of proof?”
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'''The DM:''' I’d like these to be consistent on some levelThese are the three different forms of the table that will occur.  The Lapland table (3rd shown) is goofy because the Lapland map sits at the point where the projection turns 60 degreesThe Lofoten map (2nd shown) will be far more common, as there is no projection turn.  The East Spitsbergen map (top shown) only has two levels because there are no maps to the north (unreachable Arctic Ocean).
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "A document from King Christian IV granting him land on the island of Askøy"
 
 
 
'''The DM:''' Esper reacts, thunderstruck.  He curses, though with relief, before he speaks.
 
 
 
'''Esper:'''  “Hamish is danger.  Where is he now?”
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "In danger? From whom? An associate of ours was seeing him to the Quayside Inn. He is understandably shaken by the change in his fortune."
 
 
 
'''Esper:''' “Sir gnome, you are plainly not from around here.  Hamish has told everyone in Bergen than when he gets his rights, he will become the Baron of Askøy – something which hasn’t happened.  Just now, most rents on the island are collected by a cartel of Genoans, who assumed the rents on account of the Count of Hordaland’s inability to pay his debtsNow what do you suppose they will do when Hamish produces a document taking those lands away from them?”
 
 
 
'''The DM:''' for the record, the Noble of Hordaland is Count Sissel Grieg, who served as a naval officer in the 1630s; he’s in his early 70s.
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "Would it not be considered treason against the crown if they made any attempt to prevent his rightful claim?"
 
 
 
'''Esper:''' “Yes, of course it would.  But that won’t be a problem for them if Hamish Ross has an accident, would it?”
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "So what do you recommend we do? What does Hamish need to do to secure his position?"
 
 
 
'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' "I imagine Hamish could get some bodyguards - if there's anyone left in Bergen willing to work with him."
 
 
 
'''Esper:'''  “If he can be gotten out of Bergen and to a safehouse, then we can speak with reliable authorities, making sure his acquisition is certified.  Many of the guards here at the yard take bribes from the cartel.  I hope none of them suspect what we are talking about.  I have confederates I can trust, to smuggle him out of town.  Can you keep watch on him for a day?  Where are you staying?”
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "Yes, we can do that. We have rooms at the Quayside Inn."
 
 
 
'''Esper:'''  “That’s a good placeGet a private room there and I will meet you both in the tavern at nine.”
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:''' "Thank you. We will be there." We head back to the inn.
 
 
 
'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Very good.
 
 
 
== Notes ==
 
'''The DM:''' Hands up anyone who feels they’re being manipulated.  I want to double check, because all I’m doing at this point is providing exposition in the best way possible.
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:'''(OOC) Occasionally having to remind myself of the fact, but no, I don't feel manipulated. Every choice has been ours and excepting things that would naturally be beyond our control.
 
 
 
'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I feel the same. We could help Hamish have his accident - and the consequences are clearly outlined. We're making our choices.
 
 
 
'''The DM:''' Good.  This seems a good time to check.
 
 
 
'''[[Lexent]]:'''(OOC) So is 13 July the next time we plan to play then?
 

Revision as of 12:59, 16 July 2021

The DM: I've tried everything I can think of or understand in my reading to fix a certain table I'm trying to add to my map files.

Vafrandir: Which page are you on and what is the goal?


The DM: With this, I'd like the blocks with Map B1 and Map B3 to overlap with East Spitsbergen, so that Lapland is snuggled in the middle.

A1: Greenland Sea A2: East Spitsbergen A3: Jotunheim
B1: Lofoten B2: Lapland B3: Yak'Margug

I can't seem to make it happen, however.

The DM: By inventing a fake heading, I was able to make this table look like I wanted:

A1: Greenland Sea A2: East Spitsbergen
B18: Iceland B1: Lofoten B2: Lapland
C1: North Sea A2: Baltic

The DM: However, this is a disaster.

A1: Greenland Sea A2: East
Spitsbergen
A3: Jotunheim
B1: Lofoten B2: Lapland B3: Yak'Margug
C1: North Sea C2: Baltic C3: Lithuania-
Poland
C4: Upper Volga

The DM: I can’t figure out what the column widths have to be to make these work. And if there was a better way to do it ...

Vafrandir: I'll take a look and see what I can figure out. Will each case be different or is there a pattern of overlap for each set of maps?

The DM: I’d like these to be consistent on some level. These are the three different forms of the table that will occur. The Lapland table (3rd shown) is goofy because the Lapland map sits at the point where the projection turns 60 degrees. The Lofoten map (2nd shown) will be far more common, as there is no projection turn. The East Spitsbergen map (top shown) only has two levels because there are no maps to the north (unreachable Arctic Ocean).