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"It's been a devil of a time catching up to you, but I brought a [[Vafrandir|friend!]] Now let's crush another frog!"
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'''The DM:''' The morning of May 23rd, the temperature is consistently cool, the sky features high, streaking clouds and a hint of blue.  A moderate breeze is blowing from the northwest.  The cart you climb aboard into smells, but the green hay that's been heaped upon it mitigates the odour somewhat. A large, rotund 19 year old girl, Greta, is driving; she is friendly but a bit dense, with a conversation not at all tainted with education.
: I have my battleaxe ready and in hand.
 
: I will assume [[Oddsdrakken]] has carried away the things I usually had him hold, so no throwing axes or shield. I have 3 AP as it is, so I don't want those things back right now anyway. [[Fjall]] had been holding my Crossbow and assorted goodies in the same way. I only mention either so that Alexis can jump in and inform me if I need to be calculating a different encumbrance or not.
 
: Good to be back in the saddle again guys, let's rock this thing. [[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]])
 
  
::No, when you separated, you took those things with you; so you have everything that Oddsdrakken would have carried.  The same is true of FjallI wouldn't have them rob you. Incidentally, please don't write several paragraphs, as it will get complicated when there are five of us speakingCould you please cascade extra comments with indents or assemble them in one paragraph?--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 06:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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: For a mile you travel on a fair cobbled road, before turning right at a fork and heading off on a cart track; this lasts nearly seven miles, taking you through recently planted hay fields and past gleaming lakes.  The wind freshens and the sky develops into a dull blue, with a few puffy cloudsSteadily you make 4 mi. an hour. After two and a half hours, you reach a crossroads that you recognize, as once you met officials of Stavanger here before heading off again for Mimmarudla.  You turn north onto a cobblestone road, heading to StavangerIt is about 10:30 in the morning.
  
:::Noted, and I've condensed the text above. Further: now that I know I have those things, I drop them, excepting the Hand Axe, which I keep ready. --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]]) 08:07, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Pandred]]''': I quietly hum the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85smund_Fr%C3%A6gdegjevar Åsmund Frægdegjevar] as we bounce along.
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:'''The DM:''' I listen.
  
== August 18 ==
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I shift my sword in my hand nervously. "What have you gotten me into, Pandred?" –[[Vafrandir]] 15:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' The party will reach Stavanger about one o'clock in the afternoon.  The fresh breeze continues and the wind swings towards north by north west, bringing a strong odor of salt water to the air.  The clouds in the sky thicken, so that the blue sky appears briefly.
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: What does the party want to do in Stavanger?
  
:For the record, it is pretty hot here today, and I have no air conditioning.  That will be the reason for any slow responses today.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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== Stavanger ==
::No worries; I don't expect us to jump in immediately anyway. As you said a few days ago, better to go in slowly and prepared than hastily. –[[Vafrandir]] 18:11, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::That's all very well, but I'm beginning to think I'm just going to be running Pandred and Vafrandir.
 
  
== August 19 ==
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' We need to go about passage to Treborg. Is someone willing to stay with the baggage while I inquire about this?
  
'''Engelhart''': Hello, fellows. I'm sorry for my tardy arrival on the scene. Translating the running onto a wiki was more of a hurdle than I'd thought it would be. And if not for Shelby's example I trust it would be much worse still. I hope this is practical for you, Alexis, because it sure isn't on this end of the rope. [[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 00:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Freight is 9 g.p. per ton of goods to be moved, or 2,000 lbs, per 24 hr period or part thereof. Each living being counts as 2 tons. As the wind is blowing straight from Treborg, you'll be close-hauled all the way unless it changes. That means, 26-28 hrs. of travel.
: Alexis, I've completely misplaced my list of sage abilities. The file on the drive from back when lists an "Andrej" at the top, leaving me unsure as to whether it belongs to my character. Might be you have an updated version in your possession? [[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 00:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::Pretty sure that's the one, Engelhart. It's got your '''Beasts''' at 32, right? That's what I used to recover mine. --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]])
 
::: Found it, thank you graciously, Pandred! Was definitely looking at the wrong place. So, onto another issue: the page for Encumbrance isn't yet up, do we use one of the excel files? The "newer & harsher" one, the original one, or something else entirely? [[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 00:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
'''Procedure''': Alexis, I want to make sure I'm understanding how we're doing this. Do you want us to post our actions here, and you update the main page with whatever you feel is most pertinent to the viewer, or do you want us to use this as a party-chat zone, and post only our definitive actions on the main page? The way things had been going I was under the impression that the main page was something you'd be fiddling with and our interactions would be here, but I'm not 100% certain I understand how we want things run. --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]])
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'''[[Pandred]]''': That's 128gp in person-bodies. Vafrandir, with the boat page gone you've got the information on all our other cargo. There would also be a mule and a donkey. Wiki puts average donkey weight at about 500lbs, Mule closer to 900. So just under a ton for the animals.
:I believe that if we all try to update the front page, we'll step on each other's toes, and things we write won't get updated or they'll be overwritten by someone else's edit. Shelby is more familiar than I and can confirm or not.  Engelhart updating to the front page is just something that needs to be shaken out, as we adjust to a new system.  I think we're smart and with some experimentation we'll work this out. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 06:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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:'''The DM:''' each living being counts animals.
::Wiki software is reasonably smart about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict edit conflicts] (link is for Wikipedia specifically but should be applicable to Mediawiki as well). Plus, all changes are saved anyway, so if there is some need for clean-up it's not impossible (though obviously not preferable). –[[Vafrandir]] 14:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::: I will ask about the watchlist.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:14, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: hmf. I guess it isn't the 20th yet; sorry about the confusion.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
'''Notifications''': The harder problem I'm finding is that as we update, I don't know what I've seen and haven't seen without actually opening the discussion page and scanning through it.  Like Shelby mentioned yesterday, I want a notification by email that someone has posted something.  I think the best thing is if someone starts a new query or subject, please start a new thread with a title.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 06:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' That comes out to about 171.71 gp.
:Can [[monsonj]] enable the Watchlist? The [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension%3aEcho Echo Extension] would be ideal but the watchlist would be a quicker fix. As far as I understand it, neither of these can be done from the front end here by you or me. You can also see changes by using the <code>cur</code> and <code>prev</code> links on the Recent Changes page or by viewing the history. I also suggest using the Heading formats for topics, as you can edit those directly without affecting the rest of the page. I'll continue to explore this. –[[Vafrandir]] 14:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
'''Time Zone''': the time zone is seriously out of whack. This is an easy fix; Engelhart is in Portugal; I'm in Mountain; I believe one of you is in Pacific.  Is there a time zone anyone would specifically like this set to?  I'm flexible.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 06:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''[[Pandred]]''' I can and do pay the entire sum. Our current food should keep us square aboard ship.
: I'm in CST. We have quite the distribution. –[[Vafrandir]] 14:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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: '''Pandred''': Miscounted. 11gp short, if someone would dip in there.
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:: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I'll take the slack.
  
'''Beasts''': Engelhart, your [https://wiki.alexissmolensk.com/index.php/Predict_Beasts_(sage_ability) Predict Beasts] ability allows you to predict (and because an ice toad is unnatural, and not just a giant form, it '''IS''' a beast) where the beast will attack and what movement it will make. Therefore, you KNOW that the toad does not intend to attack your character, or at all, just nowThis is a predetermined fact.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 06:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:'''Is there anything you'd like to do in Stavanger?  You have about 1½ hours before the boat leaves at 3 p.m. (counting half an hour for negotiations).
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: Point in fact, if you overpaid for stabling, don't forget to reap that money backYou've only been gone two days worth of stabling.
  
==== Encumbrance ====
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'''[[Pandred]]''': I'm done. No cash, only anticipation for the journey ahead.
For everyone, I've created this page for your '''[[Encumbrance Calculation|encumbrance calculation]]'''. My hope is that the flexibility I have to create tables such as this in the wiki, and to be able to update it quickly and at will, and for the players to be able to update such things as well, will pay for the difficulty that adjusting to the wiki brings. My sympathies, Engelhart. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 02:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==== Gameplay ====
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'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' We will need a cart. Would there be one available in Treborg? Or is Treborg not large enough for a wagonwright?
Could Pandred and Vafrandir indicate their movement for this post and this round?  I think it is time to get the game moving, since Embla has joined us (welcome!).  We can continue to talk about policy as we go. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:14, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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:['''OOC''': I almost missed this question, buried in the text above. Please add new comments in any category to the bottom]
:What is your preferred method for indicating actions? Comment here? –[[Vafrandir]] 16:41, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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:'''The DM:''' Treborg is all of 193 people.  There is one road that leads from the village that services farms, and goes to no other settlement.
:: Yes please, comment and describe your actions here, and not on the front wiki.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
I'll begin to shed my backpack ([https://wiki.alexissmolensk.com/index.php/Action_Points#Unsling_a_back_pack 5 AP]). (Bear with me as I get used to the AP system, I'm sure you'll correct as I learn) –[[Vafrandir]] 16:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Looking at the map, there is a dock about 9 miles south of Treborg, that could be reached in only 20 hours, saving you a whole day of fees.  Would you like to amend your costs?
: Good enough. That will account for your round.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 16:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' That's no small savings. Give me a minute to do the math and refund [[Pandred]]. I'll also get a cart and two harnesses from my own pocket. [Is this the "bottom"? Or do you mean the very bottom, below [[#Food]]?]
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: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' With a cart and ''one'' harness (a cart only would have one animal, correct?), the new cost is 87.09 gp and [[Pandred]] receives 73.62 gp back (Pandred, I'm not sure how you counted the decimals).
  
I drop everything but my Axes. Engelhart, since your knowledge of Beasts has let us know it doesn't intend to attack, it may be triggered by passing through the gate (or just be docile at the moment). I'm waiting on your movement. Everyone else, keep spread so we don't let it get more than one of us in a single jump. --[[User:Pandred|Pandred]] ([[User talk:Pandred|talk]])
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['''OOC''': no, the bottom of whatever subject heading we're in]
  
==== 2nd Round ====
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'''The DM:''' You didn't actually say so, but I'm taking it that you accounted for the cost to transport the cart. Yes, the cart is for one animal; either the donkey or the mule can pull it.  You'll find a tab for animals pulling carts to give you the AP cost for encumbrance (on the encumbrance excel sheet).
I've updated the front page. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 18:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I had it in my short term memory, switched tabs, and had a brain reset. Yes, the cart cost is accounted for in the 87.09 gp.
  
Will I gain my extra AP in the middle of my current turn (after shedding the pack and weight), or next turn? –[[Vafrandir]] 19:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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=== Followers ===
: At the end of the last turn, your backpack came off and hit the ground.  So you are free of it presently.--[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 19:10, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' In other news, Fjall and Willa were met by Engelhart when he returned, and learned that you were be let off in HøleTherefore, they did not leave for Jorpeland.
::Understood. I wasn't sure how actions that take longer than my total AP were resolved. If I want to equip (3 AP) and strap my shield (10 AP), does that take me three turns? –[[Vafrandir]] 19:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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:'''[[Pandred]]''': They were factored into the above maths, but it's good to know they're safe. We collect them at first opportunity.
:::Oops, my error. I got that wrong, as I'm out of practice.  Yes, it should have taken you 5 total AP to drop the packIf your move prior to dropping the pack was 4, then this round you are -1 AP out of the gate, as you need the first AP of this round to finish that action. If your move prior was 3, then you're -2 AP this round to finish the activity.  My apologies.  I need to get up to speed. --[[User:The DM|The DM]] ([[User talk:The DM|talk]]) 20:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::::So: 3 AP with pack; begin to drop it. Finishing the last 2 AP this round leaves me 1 AP. I'll need to decide if it's worth prepping my shield, and I think my "overly cautious" nature answers that question despite the extra time it'll take. So I'll begin that process (3 AP for making ready and 10 AP for strapping). –[[Vafrandir]] 20:08, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 
  
That accounts for Vafrandir. Anyone else?
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=== Food ===
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'''The DM:''' That's 1 lb. of food each for the 23rd of May.
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: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Done.
  
::::: '''Engelhart''': I tried to shoot the toad before and it was pretty well impervious by the fencing's protection (given as "intensely magical" by Mikael's ''Detect Magic'' at the time), so I'm still figuring our only chance to be to engage the toad outside of this perimeter. I'm personally willing to risk going ''in'' and attempt to circle the critter, but I'm under ''Sanctuary'', I wouldn't advise anyone else to follow suit.--[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 22:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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== Departing Stavanger ==
:::::: Movement towards 0704 for me, Alexis. --[[User:Engelhart|Engelhart]] ([[User talk:Engelhart|talk]]) 22:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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'''The DM:''' Pandred said so, and I believe Embla is afk.  Marcule is unavailable, probably for the rest of the week. So Vafrandir, good to go?
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: '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Yes, let's depart!
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Continued on [[Across Hardangervidda]]

Revision as of 12:36, 28 September 2020

The DM: The morning of May 23rd, the temperature is consistently cool, the sky features high, streaking clouds and a hint of blue. A moderate breeze is blowing from the northwest. The cart you climb aboard into smells, but the green hay that's been heaped upon it mitigates the odour somewhat. A large, rotund 19 year old girl, Greta, is driving; she is friendly but a bit dense, with a conversation not at all tainted with education.

For a mile you travel on a fair cobbled road, before turning right at a fork and heading off on a cart track; this lasts nearly seven miles, taking you through recently planted hay fields and past gleaming lakes. The wind freshens and the sky develops into a dull blue, with a few puffy clouds. Steadily you make 4 mi. an hour. After two and a half hours, you reach a crossroads that you recognize, as once you met officials of Stavanger here before heading off again for Mimmarudla. You turn north onto a cobblestone road, heading to Stavanger. It is about 10:30 in the morning.

Pandred: I quietly hum the Åsmund Frægdegjevar as we bounce along.

The DM: I listen.
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The DM: The party will reach Stavanger about one o'clock in the afternoon. The fresh breeze continues and the wind swings towards north by north west, bringing a strong odor of salt water to the air. The clouds in the sky thicken, so that the blue sky appears briefly.

What does the party want to do in Stavanger?

Stavanger

Vafrandir: We need to go about passage to Treborg. Is someone willing to stay with the baggage while I inquire about this?

The DM: Freight is 9 g.p. per ton of goods to be moved, or 2,000 lbs, per 24 hr period or part thereof. Each living being counts as 2 tons. As the wind is blowing straight from Treborg, you'll be close-hauled all the way unless it changes. That means, 26-28 hrs. of travel.

Pandred: That's 128gp in person-bodies. Vafrandir, with the boat page gone you've got the information on all our other cargo. There would also be a mule and a donkey. Wiki puts average donkey weight at about 500lbs, Mule closer to 900. So just under a ton for the animals.

The DM: each living being counts animals.

Vafrandir: That comes out to about 171.71 gp.

Pandred I can and do pay the entire sum. Our current food should keep us square aboard ship.

Pandred: Miscounted. 11gp short, if someone would dip in there.
Vafrandir: I'll take the slack.

The DM:Is there anything you'd like to do in Stavanger? You have about 1½ hours before the boat leaves at 3 p.m. (counting half an hour for negotiations).

Point in fact, if you overpaid for stabling, don't forget to reap that money back. You've only been gone two days worth of stabling.

Pandred: I'm done. No cash, only anticipation for the journey ahead.

Vafrandir: We will need a cart. Would there be one available in Treborg? Or is Treborg not large enough for a wagonwright?

[OOC: I almost missed this question, buried in the text above. Please add new comments in any category to the bottom]
The DM: Treborg is all of 193 people. There is one road that leads from the village that services farms, and goes to no other settlement.

The DM: Looking at the map, there is a dock about 9 miles south of Treborg, that could be reached in only 20 hours, saving you a whole day of fees. Would you like to amend your costs?

Vafrandir: That's no small savings. Give me a minute to do the math and refund Pandred. I'll also get a cart and two harnesses from my own pocket. [Is this the "bottom"? Or do you mean the very bottom, below #Food?]
Vafrandir: With a cart and one harness (a cart only would have one animal, correct?), the new cost is 87.09 gp and Pandred receives 73.62 gp back (Pandred, I'm not sure how you counted the decimals).

[OOC: no, the bottom of whatever subject heading we're in]

The DM: You didn't actually say so, but I'm taking it that you accounted for the cost to transport the cart. Yes, the cart is for one animal; either the donkey or the mule can pull it. You'll find a tab for animals pulling carts to give you the AP cost for encumbrance (on the encumbrance excel sheet).

Vafrandir: I had it in my short term memory, switched tabs, and had a brain reset. Yes, the cart cost is accounted for in the 87.09 gp.

Followers

The DM: In other news, Fjall and Willa were met by Engelhart when he returned, and learned that you were be let off in Høle. Therefore, they did not leave for Jorpeland.

Pandred: They were factored into the above maths, but it's good to know they're safe. We collect them at first opportunity.

Food

The DM: That's 1 lb. of food each for the 23rd of May.

Vafrandir: Done.

Departing Stavanger

The DM: Pandred said so, and I believe Embla is afk. Marcule is unavailable, probably for the rest of the week. So Vafrandir, good to go?

Vafrandir: Yes, let's depart!

Continued on Across Hardangervidda