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| − | Continued from '''[[Back to Treborg]]'''.
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| − | '''The DM:''' Setting out at 9 a.m., you’re frustrated when an hour out of Treborg, the wind dies. Completely. You row for two hours, when the wind finally picks up at noon, in the wrong direction. Nadia raises the sail and you begin to crawl your way south to Stavanger; by three you’ve made 8 knots, about a third of the journey. The wind improves, spins around to the east and you make 2 knots an hour for the next six hours, putting you 4 knots from Stavanger. The wind increases, swings to the southeast – directly in your face – and it begins to rain. Bailing, you tack the last four hours, arriving in Stavanger at 1 a.m. on the 10th of July. It is pouring rain. Nadia shrugs. She got you here. Malady checks come to naught. Embla’s parents will put you up for the night if you ask.
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| − | == July 10th ==
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Very kind of them, I beg their hospitality and thank them for it. I collapse exhausted into whatever sleeping accommodations they provide.
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| − | '''[[Pandred]]''': "I hate boats."
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Is there a particular gnomish deity of water, ships, or travel to whom I should be making appeals? (or cursing?) ;)
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| − | '''Marcule:''' Also hate boats.
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| − | '''The DM:''' Nicer when they’re bigger. Besides, it was the weather, not the boat. Would you have rather slogged 24 miles in these conditions? Anyway, in the morning, it is a moderate to heavy rain, with more than a quarter inch falling every hour. There is little wind and it is a “warm” rain, as the temperature is cool and nearly pleasant.
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' If I calculate correctly, it is Sunday. Does that mean the market and shops will be closed? Is there a gnomish population of any note in Stavanger?
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Many thanks to Nadia for the crossing and Embla's parents for a roof.
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| − | '''The DM:''' What's next?
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' If it is indeed Sunday, will Embla's parents be attending services?
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' If shopping is a viable option, I would like to head first to the Weaponwright. Otherwise, I am interested in getting to know the gnomish community in Stavanger (if any) and making sure that their spiritual needs are being met.
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| − | '''The DM:''' There is shopping on Sundays. Embla's parents will be attending services.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I will accompany them and meet the party at the market afterwards.
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| − | '''The DM:''' Sorry I can’t give you an updated price list, but please ask me about anything that seems suspicious.
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| − | '''The DM:''' Vafrandir make a wisdom check.
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I head to the Weaponwright. Once there I show him one of the pieces of adamantium and ask if he is able to work it for me. I am firstly interested in repairing my Godentag with some amount of the adamantium used for the spike.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I roll a '''19'''.
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| − | '''The DM:''' You get nothing from the service, I'm afraid. It occurs to me that a wisdom check could get you a +1% bonus on experience in your next encounter, or perhaps for the next 1,000 x.p. you earn (though that might be difficult to calculate). Perhaps a flat +100 bonus if you're in an encounter from which you take damage.
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| − | : Stuff like that would encourage players to attend church. Hm. 50 x.p. bonus per level. With a 7-day deadline.
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| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' What would be the gnomish practice for regular spiritual fullfilment?
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| − | ::: '''The DM:''' Was thinking about that. The rules have to be different for clerics; something others can get that clerics can't, but in compensation there are things clerics can get that others don't. Your attending a shrine for your god, for example, would be meaningful to you but not to them. And it would matter where you put your sage abilities.
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| − | ::::'''[[Lexent]]:''' I'm looking in the more general sense too, wanting to know what I can do FOR my community around me and how I can more meaningfully react to the world, not just benefits I can receive.
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| − | '''The DM:''' In any case, Lexent could reach out to the gnome community in Stavanger; there would be one, of several hundred. This wouldn’t give you the enlightenment Vafrandir missed out on, because as a cleric it is all old hat to you, but it might give you prospects on places to visit to shed some scales from your eyes. | |
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| − | '''The DM:''' What you can do for your community comes out of your sage abilities. As a physician, you could see while you’re here if there’s a call for your services in that regard.
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' If permissible, then, I would like to spend the time in which the Lutherans in our group might be attending services getting to know the gnomish people here and seeing how their spiritual needs are being met.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I'd very much use a rule like that even though I'm not benefiting from it today.
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| − | == The Gnomes of Stavanger ==
| + | '''The DM:''' Welcome back Vafrandir. |
| − | '''The DM:''' I’ve nothing prepared Lexent, but I’ll draw out an outline, hopefully one not too cliche. Writing off the top of my head. The gnome community here is a group of bookbinders and scribes, committed towards the collection of works on (rolled randomly) medicine, prospecting and music. | |
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| − | : Narina is the head of a medical school, with knowledge in your own subject and with instruction. Her school has 20 students. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Good to be back! Always hate to have to leave. |
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| − | : Part of the community are a group of miners who venture out at this time of year and return when the light dims in autumn; they are mostly gone, but there is one aged engineer named Glinner; he is drafting plans to rework and replumb a mine north of Sauda in Ioglefeld. | + | '''The DM:''' So, what’s the plan? |
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| − | : There is also a small musical college dedicated to gnomish music and poetry, run by Pumbar; there are some 25 attendants. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Let's get the loot so far moved to the surface. I'll ask Bjarni if the bats came out to the surface. If not, we may run into them later. |
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| − | : On these three subjects there are regular books being written and two printing presses in operation. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' "Well, Vafrandir, we've been exploring this upper floor, but the sappers seem somewhat interested in the area down the stairwell, and it doesn't seem to have the same dreadful feeling as some of the rest of this place. After we move the treasure, I'm somewhat more inclined to at least explore the rest of these doors up here. What do you think we should do?" |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Excellent. Thank you. With the time I spend among them today do I learn of any of them that are in need of healing or medical care? | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I begin consolidating the treasure from the satchels, including collecting up to five empty flasks or bottles if I find any. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' If you’re up for it, you can relieve a nurse in her hospital and care for as many patients (aid rest) as you’re able. But that will mean you’ll have no time to buy at a market today.
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| − | == Market ==
| + | '''The DM:''' Bjarni saw no bats. The silence and air movement of the lower chambers suggest to the sappers that there’s nothing down there ... though there might be more bats or jellies, as there’s evidence of those creatures everywhere. Judging from a few quick sorties done by Helga, this seems to be where the main number of goblins lived and nothing more. |
| − | '''The DM:''' Anyone here not have the Stavanger Market file? | |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I have access to a copy of it [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xOqVK3fSoQd8Phu_3dKYIExhNAtThSF6/view?usp=sharing here] . Once the time for services is past I turn my attention to shopping and proceed to the weaponwright.
| + | '''The DM:''' There are 37 ceramic cups and about 21 ceramic plates, 18 combs and 43 eating “forks,” with two long three-inch tines attached to a two-inch handle. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' you’re giving me conflicting actions, Lexent.
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| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' Sorry, I missed your response above. I assume that Vafrandir will only be at Lutheran services for part of the day. My intention was to spend that part of the day getting to know the community and providing whatever small comforts (or even a cure light wounds if warranted) I can, and then meet the others in the market.
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| − | : '''The DM:''' Not needed, as it happens. Very well, let’s say that you meet Narina, hear about the others and that the invitation to volunteer is left open for another day.
| + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' When you say "combs" is that like a hair comb? |
| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' Thank you.
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| − | '''The DM:''' Let me know when you'd like me to continue, having bought your goods. We can retcon a lot of the purchases. Vafrandir, selling the ale, without Embla to barter for you, the best price you can get is only 40% the value of the ale & barrel. | + | '''The DM:''' You can’t possibly count all the gems at this point, but for your records: |
| | + | : of the cairngorm gems, there are 85 cherry-sized, 635 almond-sized, 85 walnut-sized, 14 plum-sized and 1 apple-sized. |
| | + | : of the hematite, there are 27 cherry-sized, 475 almond-sized, 53 walnut-sized, 4 plum-sized and 3 peach-sized. |
| | + | : Yep, a hair comb. |
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| − | '''Marcule:''' ooc:sorry out for the rest see you all Friday. | + | '''The DM:''' Bjarni has completed the work and arrives in time to help you gather up the valuables. |
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| − | '''The DM:''' Marcule, if you wish to sell the harness when you this, you can get 320 g.p. for it. | + | '''Helga: ''' This Grond fellow doesn’t care much about treasure, does he? |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' What is the Weaponwright able to do with the adamantium, how much of it will it take, and what will be the cost in both time and money? | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I help move the consolidated valuables, including the chest full of raw metal and leather from the kennel, to the surface. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Also interested in the weaponwright's response. Would, say, a longsword have the same properties as the shortsword I have now? | + | '''Marcule:''' in |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' The ale sells for '''89 gp, 7 sp, 3 cp'''. I'm not sure who among us will have access to Barter studies at some point but it'd be good to have in the bag. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' (To Helga) "No. I find his motives difficult to fathom, although he certainly seems threatening and unpleasant." |
| − | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' Recorded
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Is the Carpenter's hammer the correct type for Marcule to work with? Would the blacksmith have tool grade knives for sale? (as opposed to weapon, copper, or silver) | + | '''The DM:''' It takes about an hour to hoist all this stuff out; you are not disturbed during this time. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' "Vafrandir, What did we decide about purchasing more chests?" | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Dishes are probably good for a few silver. |
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| − | : '''The DM:''' Hm. Assumed you’d sell it. Adamantium has to be alloyed with another metal; usually in weapons, it is alloyed first with copper and then with iron, so that the adamantium mix takes up 15% of the weapon. Takes time, say one day per pound of weapon you wish made this way, with a start-up time six days, so that one pound of weapon could be produced on the 8th day. This measurement of “pounds of weapon” means the traditional weight of the weapon. So a 6 lb. long sword on the table would need six days of working to make, plus the six lead up. But if you ask for multiple weapons, the six days starting time would only have to be paid once.
| + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Doesn't sound like there's much more here on this level. Let's try for another door out of the hall. |
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| − | '''The DM:''' I could go through and give you the approximate metal weights of all weapons (vs. wood, say), but that will take a little time; I can get it ready for you by Friday. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' The great hall or the hallway from the barracks? |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Did we determine a cost for the bunk beds? (both normal and gnome size)
| + | :'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Barracks. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' I didn’t; I guessed 4 by 2, but the exact size is up to you.
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| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' Yes, assuming the 4x2 size.
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| − | '''The DM:''' She actually needs a more precision tool. I’ll have to make one. A moment please. | + | '''The DM:''' Do you wish to give a share of the treasure to the hirelings? |
| − | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' He. ;)
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| − | :: '''The DM:''' A "tinker's hammer"; there's something wrong with table at this point (I said it's pulled apart). Call it 1/2 lb. and 2 g.p.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' We have two free chests for you to use. As we eat up our supplies, more will become available. | + | '''The DM:''' Let me finish managing the treasure. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' What would the properties of such a long-sword be? | + | :'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Yes. Let's split it later though once the day is done. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' The long sword would be 6 lb. iron; so to forge it with adamantium would need 14.4 oz. of your adamantium. The adjusted weight can be seen on the stavanger market list: there’s a listing for adamantium long sword there. It would be a +1 weapon just like your short sword.
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| − | '''Pandred''': I'll offload my gems and 2 swords today. There were 3 small agates and 2 plum sized agates. How do I handle that? Do I treat them as the value of xp they accrued, or is there a value I should be looking at? The same with the adamantium swords, for that matter. | + | '''The DM:''' I’d like to point out that they get 1/8th share of the bonus experience ... which you can use as a touchpoint for calculating any treasure you might want to give. But you should balance your desire to be generous with the realistic fact that the more you give away, the less experience you’ll get. |
| − | :'''Pandred''': For reference, that means Lexent and I have officially divided the agates between us, leaving Vaf and Marcule with the hematite/cairngorms.
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I sell my sword, gems, and 2 of my adamantium nuggets. It looks like the rest of it will go a bit farther than I had anticipated. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Would it be customary to provide shares to those still at camp as well? |
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| − | '''The DM:''' Pandred, “small” isn’t a size. “cherry” or “marble”? I believe they were cherry. A cherry –sized agate will get you 1 s.p.; the plum-sized will get you 10 s.p. Those are their “sale” cost, not their purchase costs. | + | '''The DM:''' I need to know your intentions now, or I can’t award you any experience at this time (and you might want that experience). I also need to add that the gems are all of fine quality, much more so than the first set of gems you found. |
| − | : Ask for the value on any gem sold please. | + | : Nothing is "customary." |
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| − | '''The DM:''' Lexent, I’ll give you 12 g.p. for the sword. 20 g.p. for each adamantium lump. I don’t know what your gems are.
| + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' We also have those two potions that were never allocated as treasure. Do we have the ability to just assign them 1/8th of a share of the treasure each, not knowing the precise value of the gems? |
| − | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' They are cherry-sized agates, so answered above.
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| − | '''The DM:''' same price for your swords, Pandred. Did I miss anything? | + | '''The DM:''' Items like the potions can’t be divided. X.P. is given to whomever drinks the potion. |
| | + | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' Huh. Good to know. |
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| − | '''Pandred''': I think that does it for me. | + | '''The DM:''' The gems, on the other hand, can be divided fairly evenly, there being so many, and the sappers have a fair understanding of how much each is worth. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' We are purchasing bunk beds, correct? Should we deduct that from party expenses? Do we need any other supplies? (Holy Water, Salves)? | + | '''Marcule:''' there will always be more treasure, I think it is important to share the wealth |
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| − | '''Pandred''': I tell a lie. I also sell my three adamant lumps. ''Then'' that does it for me. | + | '''The DM:''' Anybody want to suck back a potion and get some free x.p.? |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Would you like us to list any purchases here, or just account for them in our own records? | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I think they can be better put to use after identifying them, or at least when we are in a situation when a hail Mary might do us some good. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I think that other than deciding on any additional party supplies, we should decide if we want any adamantium weapons made. It doesn't seem worth it for just my Godentags spike, but a spike and a longsword and... | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Here is my suggestion: we divide treasure into 26 shares as evenly as possible. Odds, as a man-at-arms, receives 2 shares. As funders of the venture, we receive 4. And all sappers receive 1 share. How does that sound? |
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| − | '''The DM:''' Just account for them on your sheets. I trust you. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' What about Ole? |
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| − | '''The DM:''' You can just BUY the longsword. | + | '''The DM:''' Lexent has come out as the voice of reason. Anybody else feel differently? (Odds has no combat training and isn't a man-at-arms; the sappers are, however) |
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| − | '''The DM:''' It will make your godentag +1. Okay, till Friday. Lexent, you want to identify your staff? Out. | + | '''The DM:''' Ole is a man at arms also, as is Anders. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Ah, yes, but what will that take? | + | '''The DM:''' I’m assuming this conversation is happening apart from all the hirelings, so none of them can hear you just now. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Good deal, I'll buy the longsword, and sell my metal. | + | :'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Let us assume so. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I have two hematite gems, cherry sized. What's the price on these? | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Correct. Anders or Arvid? |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Out. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I agree with Lexent about the potion. Yes, I was counting all 8 of our hires in the above calculation. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' In. | + | '''Marcule:''' I also agree |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' "So, as we are looking to acquire more assistance to deal with Grond, what are our current recurring expenses, both in money and in food?"
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| − | == Wages & Hiring ==
| + | '''The DM:''' Arvid, pardon me. |
| − | '''The DM:''' for the record, I am perpetually unhappy with numbers for wages paid. This has always been a sore place in my side regarding my trade tables; I’ve never quite been able to establish a consistent across-the-board cost for wages, for all persons. I was just getting started on this with the beginning of the year, but I got distracted with first rebuilding the pricing table, then using that rebuild to create a poster. | |
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| − | : 2 s.p./month for your houseservant and 4 s.p. for the pilot are ridiculously low; I cannot find the number paid to Oddsdrakken, because it is located in the old Juvenis wiki and blogger can’t search comments. These numbers can stand, but there is a plan to drastically up these amounts, once I work out a few ideas I have to establish consistent numbers. For the present, if you hire any men-at-arms, I’m going to charge you 6 g.p. a month for them. You may assume that your other servants are all making more money as well, except that through the power of the universe the money is appearing in their pockets without my billing YOU. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Does what I'm saying make sense, to divide by shares? I'm open to flexibility on the exact distribution. Just seems the easiest way to do it. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Understood. It's a tricky thing - the prices for other "items" are pretty well linked to availability - do you do the same thing for labor? | + | '''The DM:''' Vafrandir, I’m pointing out that you’re giving 2 shares to Oddsdrakken BECAUSE he’s a man-at-arms, which he ISN’T, and that you’re giving 1 share to the sappers and the cook because they aren’t, when they ARE. Please respond. |
| − | :'''The DM:''' At present, I don’t “do” anything. Since the “availability” of a miner has no consistent total to do with how much product is mined, and isn’t consistent with the ratios for butchers, potters, herders or woodcutters, how do you base anything on the unknown numbers for each? At the moment, I more or less pull these numbers out of the air.
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| − | ::'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Yes, I was thinking it was based on the relative amount of labor rather than the product. So if there are so many "references" of miners here, the price per month is calculated accordingly. But still, you need to have a few more variables that are as yet unknown.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I have two hematite gems, cherry sized. What's the price on these? | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I was about to propose we allocate 1/8th of a share of the gems to each of the party's hirelings, allowing them to choose the gems they like best within those parameters. That would be more akin to 42 equal portions 1 per party hireling, 2 for Oddsdraken, and 8 for each of us. But I'm happy either way. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' I'll give you 20 c.p. for each.
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Are we able to start the search for more hirelings the same day as the market, or do we need to wait until the following day? | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Is Oddsdraken a follower? I understand my mistake. My thought was *if* he's at a higher "rank" then he would merit more shares. But I think I may be mistaken on that. What is his share of bonus XP? |
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| − | :'''The DM:''' Depends. Each vendor you’ve purchased things at will cost you ½ hour; how many vendors have you visited between noon and 6 p.m. Ah, but it is Sunday anyway. No one can be hired on a Sunday.
| + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Yes, Lexent, that's more or less the shape of my thinking. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' That makes sense. How much did we calculate for the cost of the 4 bunk beds (1 gnome sized at 4x2)? | + | '''Marcule:''' I will quaff an potion "never to late to make myself a new colour" |
| − | :'''The DM:''' Answered that already. Size of bed is up to you. When you tell me the size of the bed, I’ll tell you how much it costs.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' The 3 non-gnome bunk beds I think will be fine at 6x4. So that's what I discuss with the carpenter. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Oh, I'm also counting Valda and Nadia as hires. Their work makes ours possible. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' You can no longer find ready-made beds wider than 3 ft. wide (I'm using my own updated table for direct questions). 6 x3 will cost 7 s.p.
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| − | ::'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Not a problem.
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| − | :::'''[[Lexent]]:''' So a total of 21 s.p. for 3 human(ish) size bunk beds. Have we verified that we will be able to transport these in the boat?
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| − | :'''The DM:''' The beds weigh 67.5 lbs. each; the boat will haul up to 2 tons I think; I said elsewhere, do I need to find it? The boat is pretty big, so even though the beds are bulky, they can be lashed in place.
| + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I do have concerns that providing double the shares of treasure to a pack-bearer than those of man-at-arms might cause some ill feelings. |
| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' The bulk had been my concern. Thank you.
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| − | '''Marcule:''' In. | + | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I see that. I think I may have not understood Odds' exact relationship to Pandred here. Perhaps Pandred can weigh in? In that case, how about 1 share for all hirelings, and 4 for each of us. |
| | + | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' Pandred hired Oddsdraken on the 3rd of May to be her packbearer. |
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I have the boat's tonnage listed on the Cargo sheet, I believe. We should be fine assuming no inclement weather. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I can accept that. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I know Vafrandir decided to simply purchase the adamantium sword, was anyone else still interested in commissioning a weapon with their adamantium? | + | '''The DM:''' As far as I know, Oddsdrakken is still being paid; but he’s been around long enough, he’s nearly a follower. Give him an extra share because he’s loyal and he’s been with you a long time, but NOT because he’s a man-at-arms, as he isn’t. |
| − | :'''Pandred''': Would a head for my battleaxe be significantly cheaper than a whole sword?
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| − | ::'''The DM:''' The battle axe would require 14 days to make; it would use 18 oz. of your adamantium. Making it would cost 18 g.p.
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| − | '''[[Vafrandir]]:''' What are you meaning by a sapper in this context? Overall, I agree. Hm. The airship supplies don't have much left: a few more barrels and some lutefisk, but not enough to make a huge difference. We can pay for additional men from party funds and supplement with personal if necessary. | + | :'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' I see. Thank you for clarifying! Let's do that: 2 for Odds because of his history with us; 1 each for the men-at-arms; 4 each for us. That's more generous than the XP distribution and I believe it to be fair. |
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| − | '''Pandred''': Our original hirelings in the distant past were classified as "Sappers". Alexis can call out my definition, but basically it's lightly armored infantry specializing in siegeworks, both the construction of and dismantling. A soldier with a shovel and pick, if you will. They helped us crack the original barrow.
| + | '''The DM:''' Odds gets 1/8th share; but he hardly ever fights. |
| − | : '''The DM:''' Correct.
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| − | == Identifying the Staff ==
| + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' It sounds like everyone here is in agreement. We divide the treasure into 26 equal portions granting 1 portion to each hireling, an extra portion for Odds due to his loyalty, and 4 portions to each party member. |
| − | '''The DM:''' Guessing at this point that I’ve already been ignored four times on this point, but I’m going to try again: identifying the staff will cost 23 g.p.
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| − | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' Sorry, I must have missed your response when I asked what that would take.
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| − | :'''[[Lexent]]:''' I do not have the personal funds to identify the staff, would we like to spend party funds to get it identified?
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| − | ::'''[[Vafrandir]]:''' Make it so
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| − | '''Marcule''': i will cover that | + | == The Potion == |
| | + | '''The DM:''' It’s a heroism potion, bumping Marcule up to 4th level, with an additional 39 hit points. Your THAC0 is 18. This does not adjust your illusionist abilities. |
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| − | '''[[Lexent]]:''' I get the staff Identified. | + | '''[[Lexent]]:''' Do any of us have an idea of how long that will last? |
| | + | : '''The DM:''' Nope. |
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| − | '''The DM:''' I’m getting a total of 4 details. Two you know already, that the staff is +1 to hit and that it cures 3d4 h.p. a day. You also learn that it has 8 charges. And finally, if it is consciously chosen before an attack is attempted, the staff will add an extra bonus of +1/level of the cleric damage, which expends a charge. So if a charge were spent, Lexent’s attack would be +1 to hit and +3 damage. | + | '''The DM:''' As you’re an assassin and not a fighter class, you don’t get 5 attacks/4 rounds like Pandred does (that comes at 5th level for you). |
| − | : This is all the mage can tell you; to learn more, you’ll need a higher level mage than he is, which will mean travelling to a larger city.
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| − | ::'''[[Lexent]]:''' Thank you. Am I correct in assuming that charges never replenish?
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| − | ::: '''The DM:''' You have no idea. Some staves can be recharged. Some can't. That's something that might have been identified, but the caster was unable to determine that.
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| − | == Planning for Grond ==
| + | '''The DM:''' Marcule, add 300 x.p. |
| − | '''[[Pandred]]''': I like sprucing up the house, but what I really would like to dive in on is what our assault on Grond is gonna look like. Are we going to move the supplies from the airship to the cairn campsite? How many men do we want in camp, and how many coming into the dungeon with us? A cook seems smart. I wouldn't mind some heavy infantry or at least sappers. At 6gp a piece, I've got funds for 5 men for two months, which seems like a reasonable amount of time to tackle this thing even if it all goes sour. | |
The DM: In.
The DM: Welcome back Vafrandir.
Vafrandir: Good to be back! Always hate to have to leave.
The DM: So, what’s the plan?
Vafrandir: Let's get the loot so far moved to the surface. I'll ask Bjarni if the bats came out to the surface. If not, we may run into them later.
Lexent: "Well, Vafrandir, we've been exploring this upper floor, but the sappers seem somewhat interested in the area down the stairwell, and it doesn't seem to have the same dreadful feeling as some of the rest of this place. After we move the treasure, I'm somewhat more inclined to at least explore the rest of these doors up here. What do you think we should do?"
Lexent: I begin consolidating the treasure from the satchels, including collecting up to five empty flasks or bottles if I find any.
The DM: Bjarni saw no bats. The silence and air movement of the lower chambers suggest to the sappers that there’s nothing down there ... though there might be more bats or jellies, as there’s evidence of those creatures everywhere. Judging from a few quick sorties done by Helga, this seems to be where the main number of goblins lived and nothing more.
The DM: There are 37 ceramic cups and about 21 ceramic plates, 18 combs and 43 eating “forks,” with two long three-inch tines attached to a two-inch handle.
Lexent: When you say "combs" is that like a hair comb?
The DM: You can’t possibly count all the gems at this point, but for your records:
- of the cairngorm gems, there are 85 cherry-sized, 635 almond-sized, 85 walnut-sized, 14 plum-sized and 1 apple-sized.
- of the hematite, there are 27 cherry-sized, 475 almond-sized, 53 walnut-sized, 4 plum-sized and 3 peach-sized.
- Yep, a hair comb.
The DM: Bjarni has completed the work and arrives in time to help you gather up the valuables.
Helga: This Grond fellow doesn’t care much about treasure, does he?
Lexent: I help move the consolidated valuables, including the chest full of raw metal and leather from the kennel, to the surface.
Marcule: in
Lexent: (To Helga) "No. I find his motives difficult to fathom, although he certainly seems threatening and unpleasant."
The DM: It takes about an hour to hoist all this stuff out; you are not disturbed during this time.
Vafrandir: Dishes are probably good for a few silver.
Vafrandir: Doesn't sound like there's much more here on this level. Let's try for another door out of the hall.
Lexent: The great hall or the hallway from the barracks?
- Vafrandir: Barracks.
The DM: Do you wish to give a share of the treasure to the hirelings?
The DM: Let me finish managing the treasure.
- Vafrandir: Yes. Let's split it later though once the day is done.
The DM: I’d like to point out that they get 1/8th share of the bonus experience ... which you can use as a touchpoint for calculating any treasure you might want to give. But you should balance your desire to be generous with the realistic fact that the more you give away, the less experience you’ll get.
Lexent: Would it be customary to provide shares to those still at camp as well?
The DM: I need to know your intentions now, or I can’t award you any experience at this time (and you might want that experience). I also need to add that the gems are all of fine quality, much more so than the first set of gems you found.
- Nothing is "customary."
Lexent: We also have those two potions that were never allocated as treasure. Do we have the ability to just assign them 1/8th of a share of the treasure each, not knowing the precise value of the gems?
The DM: Items like the potions can’t be divided. X.P. is given to whomever drinks the potion.
- Lexent: Huh. Good to know.
The DM: The gems, on the other hand, can be divided fairly evenly, there being so many, and the sappers have a fair understanding of how much each is worth.
Marcule: there will always be more treasure, I think it is important to share the wealth
The DM: Anybody want to suck back a potion and get some free x.p.?
Lexent: I think they can be better put to use after identifying them, or at least when we are in a situation when a hail Mary might do us some good.
Vafrandir: Here is my suggestion: we divide treasure into 26 shares as evenly as possible. Odds, as a man-at-arms, receives 2 shares. As funders of the venture, we receive 4. And all sappers receive 1 share. How does that sound?
Lexent: What about Ole?
The DM: Lexent has come out as the voice of reason. Anybody else feel differently? (Odds has no combat training and isn't a man-at-arms; the sappers are, however)
The DM: Ole is a man at arms also, as is Anders.
The DM: I’m assuming this conversation is happening apart from all the hirelings, so none of them can hear you just now.
- Vafrandir: Let us assume so.
Lexent: Correct. Anders or Arvid?
Vafrandir: I agree with Lexent about the potion. Yes, I was counting all 8 of our hires in the above calculation.
Marcule: I also agree
The DM: Arvid, pardon me.
Vafrandir: Does what I'm saying make sense, to divide by shares? I'm open to flexibility on the exact distribution. Just seems the easiest way to do it.
The DM: Vafrandir, I’m pointing out that you’re giving 2 shares to Oddsdrakken BECAUSE he’s a man-at-arms, which he ISN’T, and that you’re giving 1 share to the sappers and the cook because they aren’t, when they ARE. Please respond.
Lexent: I was about to propose we allocate 1/8th of a share of the gems to each of the party's hirelings, allowing them to choose the gems they like best within those parameters. That would be more akin to 42 equal portions 1 per party hireling, 2 for Oddsdraken, and 8 for each of us. But I'm happy either way.
Vafrandir: Is Oddsdraken a follower? I understand my mistake. My thought was *if* he's at a higher "rank" then he would merit more shares. But I think I may be mistaken on that. What is his share of bonus XP?
Vafrandir: Yes, Lexent, that's more or less the shape of my thinking.
Marcule: I will quaff an potion "never to late to make myself a new colour"
Vafrandir: Oh, I'm also counting Valda and Nadia as hires. Their work makes ours possible.
Lexent: I do have concerns that providing double the shares of treasure to a pack-bearer than those of man-at-arms might cause some ill feelings.
Vafrandir: I see that. I think I may have not understood Odds' exact relationship to Pandred here. Perhaps Pandred can weigh in? In that case, how about 1 share for all hirelings, and 4 for each of us.
- Lexent: Pandred hired Oddsdraken on the 3rd of May to be her packbearer.
Lexent: I can accept that.
The DM: As far as I know, Oddsdrakken is still being paid; but he’s been around long enough, he’s nearly a follower. Give him an extra share because he’s loyal and he’s been with you a long time, but NOT because he’s a man-at-arms, as he isn’t.
- Vafrandir: I see. Thank you for clarifying! Let's do that: 2 for Odds because of his history with us; 1 each for the men-at-arms; 4 each for us. That's more generous than the XP distribution and I believe it to be fair.
The DM: Odds gets 1/8th share; but he hardly ever fights.
Lexent: It sounds like everyone here is in agreement. We divide the treasure into 26 equal portions granting 1 portion to each hireling, an extra portion for Odds due to his loyalty, and 4 portions to each party member.
The Potion
The DM: It’s a heroism potion, bumping Marcule up to 4th level, with an additional 39 hit points. Your THAC0 is 18. This does not adjust your illusionist abilities.
Lexent: Do any of us have an idea of how long that will last?
- The DM: Nope.
The DM: As you’re an assassin and not a fighter class, you don’t get 5 attacks/4 rounds like Pandred does (that comes at 5th level for you).
The DM: Marcule, add 300 x.p.
